M.A. Anthropology, University of Oklahoma, emphasis linguistics, field linguistics, Summer Institute of Linguistics, applied field linguistics, linguistic theory, continental structural linguistics, kinship studies, Apachean studies, ethnology.

B.A. Philosophy , University of Oklahoma, over 100 hours of study. Emphasis in logic traditional and mathematical systems, epistemology, logic and scientific method, focus on interaction typing theory, thermodynamics, information theory, living systems ("In search of an Ecology of Mind": see Bateson et. al.)